This second interview that night takes place after Esther and her mother are taken for a ride by the chief and Linkenmeyer to see Jason's truck. They drive her past it three times and from both directions so that she "can get a really good look at it. During this drive she also identifies someone in the front yard as being Jason. (It turns out that who she saw was Jason's brother). Amazingly, she never says a word about that in this interview. Yet despite seeing the truck - she goes on to state that the truck she was taken in had small seats behind the front (king cab), no tailgate, and brown (possible Wisconsin) license plates. Jason's truck did not have back seats, it did have a tailgate and had blue Iowa plates.

It is not possible for this incident to have taken place in the manner reported:

911 call came in at 3:41 - Esther reported she was taken at approx. 3:25-3:30 from in front of 817 5th St SE by a man who on previous days of this same week had told her riddles from his truck, but she had not told her parents of this because she kept forgetting to do so. On May 30, however, he stops he truck, turns it off, exits and comes around the rear of his vehicle and onto the sidewalk where she is. He picks her up under the arms and says "Gotcha". He then goes back around his truck carrying Esther, puts her in the drivers side, climbs in beside her and starts the truck. He then drives to isolated area off Birch Drive where he removes her from the truck and the assault takes place. They put back on their clothes and then he carries her to the river and "drops" her in a shallow enough area where she is able to stand up. To drop her the way she describes, he also would have to have been standing in the river getting at the very least - his shoes and pants wet and muddy. Then she is swept back in the river, going with the rushing water that flows to the east. At some point she grabs on to a log, then tells the man who is watching her that she will drown for him if he will go away. This is repeated two more times before he finally leaves. She states that he leaves going west back past Shanks house - how she sees this from the river is unquestionably miraculous. She pulls herself from the river and runs along the bike path west toward Shanks house - slightly over 1/2 mile away. She sees him out mowing his yard and tells him that someone tried to drown her. They go up to his house and she goes inside with him and he calls 911. Incredibly this entire incident takes place in 11-16 minutes from the time the man exits his truck to run over to the side walk to pick her up to the time the 911 call is received. So, minus the 5-6 minutes driving time, and 8-9 minute time for her to run over 1/2 mile after at least 5 minutes in the river - there is no time left for the assault to have taken place. So Stearns report suggests she was taken from directly behind the school (to make this whole thing possible, and the judge uses that same assumption in his ruling - because this is what Jason was instructed to say in his confession). I doesn't seem to matter that Esther states she was taken just four houses from her own - which is a half hour walk from her school that let out at 3:00. If she had been taken from the school as the court assumes - then her friend, Charity, would have witnessed this - because they walked most the way home together. Charity, of course, is never interviewed.